Wow. I'm so glad this was the oral history I finished with because it was by far my favorite. I think every art student should listen to this. These men speak so well about creation and our responsibility and place in the world. I particularly liked one of the final moments of the interview where Barry says "I think in some of the worst moments, you realize that it's only because somebody who loves somebody loves you that you're able to work that that's moving through you"
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